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Request for Information => Bird ID => Topic started by: anatum on January 01, 2017, 02:12:17 PM

Title: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: anatum on January 01, 2017, 02:12:17 PM

Happy 2017 everyone!
Found this redpoll in Kapuskasing last week but am not sure how to ID it. I think it has dark streaking making it a Common but am not sure how dark is dark relative to the Hoary.

(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww91/LCBO/Bird%20ID/16%2012%2028%20093_zpsbjywkszv.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/LCBO/media/Bird%20ID/16%2012%2028%20093_zpsbjywkszv.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: thouc on January 01, 2017, 07:35:01 PM

Probably a Common, but without seeing the rump and undertail coverts it's hard to make a conclusive ID.

/Thomas

Title: Re: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: anatum on January 02, 2017, 09:10:13 PM

Thanks Thomas.
Not sure if this shot is helpful but here goes
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww91/LCBO/Bird%20ID/16%2012%2028%20074_zpsovecaqmb.jpg) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/LCBO/media/Bird%20ID/16%2012%2028%20074_zpsovecaqmb.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: Reuven_M on January 02, 2017, 09:37:35 PM

COmmon and Hoary Redpoll are probably best considered a single species, but regardless this is well towards the Common end of the spectrum. Brownish and heavily streaked all over, including on the undertail coverts

Title: Re: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: anatum on January 03, 2017, 07:24:11 PM

Thanks for your help guys.
I didn't know that in some circles they are considered the same species.

Title: Re: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: GStuart on January 04, 2017, 09:49:39 AM

Here is an article based on relatively current research at Cornell University examining differences and similarities of Common, Hoary and Lesser Redpolls.  https://www.allaboutbirds.org/from-many-one-how-many-species-of-redpolls-are-there/

Title: Re: Common or Hoary Redpoll?
Post by: anatum on January 04, 2017, 01:04:31 PM

Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing it... but if I ever do see a "Hoary" I'd be too excited to not count it separately  :D