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Birding Reports => Toronto Reports => Topic started by: Charline on January 19, 2024, 09:54:00 PM

Title: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Charline on January 19, 2024, 09:54:00 PM
This video will show you almost every angle of the bird. Please tell me if this bird is a male, female or juvenile? Thanks!


Please, if you find it interesting, give me a pat on the shoulder, a.k.a. a "like" on YouTube. Thanks again!



https://youtu.be/jorswCEWDlM (https://youtu.be/jorswCEWDlM)
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Shortsighted on January 20, 2024, 11:22:32 AM
Female (juvenile) facial characteristics and some minor red on the rump ... I would say your reasoning makes sense.
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Charline on January 20, 2024, 11:50:45 AM
So SS, what is your verdict? Female juvenile? Did you notice a hint of red on the white cheek?
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Shortsighted on January 20, 2024, 12:40:01 PM
The red rump, or indeed red anywhere at all would indicate a male bird. The leucistic patches might otherwise be red thereby making it an adult bird.
I don't think that finches remain juvenile for long. Some of the blush I noted on your video seemed to be transient, as if caused by a reflection from the glass superimposed over the the propagated image. The red on its rump was definite and real. Your honour, may I approach the bench?


"If the photographer in this case had captured a video of a leucistic finch, not through glass, but through leucite (perspex), would that not be leucitic evidence of a leucistic finch?"

"SS, this supposition is completely irrelevant!" shouted the judge, with stern disapproval. "One more non sequitur like this and I'll hold you in contempt of forum. Do I make myself clear?"
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Charline on January 20, 2024, 01:11:11 PM
Your Honour, Leucy just came, alone, and was singing happily. Must be glad to find more seeds in the feeder.


I took more photos. There is definitely a red/orange hue on the white cheek. I cleaned the window yesterday. The red is not from the reflections. 
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Charline on January 23, 2024, 12:04:19 PM
Luecy has been hanging out with a male. After all, maybe she is a female.  ;D
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Shortsighted on January 23, 2024, 12:10:19 PM
Na, ... bromance.
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Bird Brain on January 23, 2024, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: Shortsighted on January 23, 2024, 12:10:19 PM
... bromance.
  ;D  Thanks for the really great and much needed laugh!   Very confusing if this bird is a Ricky or not.  Perhaps Ricky Jr.?
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Shortsighted on January 23, 2024, 04:20:08 PM
Either way it's living La Vida Loca, and as such, I would like to think that Charline has the beat cranked up to make the window pane vibrate. Ya baby! Umph ... umph ... umph!

Salsa anyone?
Title: Re: Is this house finch with white feathers a male, female or juvenile?
Post by: Bird Brain on January 24, 2024, 02:42:17 AM
Quote from: Charline on January 20, 2024, 01:11:11 PM

I took more photos. There is definitely a red/orange hue on the white cheek.
I don't think this bird is a  juv and guessing male due to this red.  Not sure we"ll ever be100% sure so for now will remain a "mystery bird". ???