Outdoor Ontario
Wildlife Reports => Toronto Wildlife => Topic started by: denis on December 22, 2009, 08:04:47 PM
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upon looking at the pics,one coyote is injured.you can see his leg,is purple,and half his tail is missing. poor thing.this is the one who came out on the path,right in front of me.perhaps,he got hit by a car? what should be done?i realise,even in his state,he would be extremalely,hard to capture. notice the extreme colour variation between the two.
denis
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Nice photos. The second one appears to be mixed.
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could be.the other one is what i,m accustomed to seeing.
denis
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I'm impressed Denis! What luck - how close were you and what was their reaction to you? P.S. The pics are great!
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thanks moira.
they were about 100,to 150 ft away,and came closer.they would look at us(me and 2 joggers on the bridge),briefly,and went about their business looking for food.i was really surprised,at their apparent lack of fear for humans.i guess hunger rules!
denis
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Yeah the second one looks like its a coy dog a mix between a dog and coyote. Very interesting.
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wow Denis, weren't you afraid?
Super pictures
now I am definitely not going out there without a buddy!! that's a great bridge to get pics from.
which one was the brave one the 1st or 2nd that came closer to you?
and are you sure the second isn't a wolf coyote mix? never heard of a coy dog before...have to look it up :)
once again, be careful out there!
Irene
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there is a wolf-dog mix,up north they call a mallamute.people have them as pets.a friend of mine had one.i,m sure the coyotes could do the same with dogs. doubt you,d see a wolf-coyote mix.the wolves would tear any coyote to shreds,that they come across.the first one,the injured one,was the brave one.he,s probably the hungriest one,as apparent from his scrawny condition,plus injuries slowing him down.thanks for the comment irene
denis
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Malamutes are a breed of domestic dog - they are not dog/wolf hybrids, although the breed is commonly hybridized with wolves to create true 'wolfdogs' - which is unfortunate because they are generally untrustworthy as pets. I think it is unlikely that wolves and coyotes would hybridize, because wolves absolutely hate coyotes and will kill them whenever possible.
Coyote-dog hybrids are common though, and with the number of people who let their dogs run willy-nilly around Toronto parks, it doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to think someones pet dog managed to mate with a wild coyote. That is an absolutely gorgeous animal though, wow. The first one looks like he might just have a bit of mange.
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thanks for the info.
the friend of mine that had one,eventually had to get rid of it,as he wouldn,t trust it with his young children.i could not get near it,whitout it,pulling it,s lips back,warning me to stay away.not exactly good for a house pet!
denis
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I think it is unlikely that wolves and coyotes would hybridize, because wolves absolutely hate coyotes and will kill them whenever possible.quote]
You may want to revisit and possibly research that statement... :wink:
Most coyotes we have in eastern Canada are actually a cross between wolves and coyotes, often referred to as coywolves. Easiest way to tell the difference is their size, given that pure coyotes usually don't weigh more than 40lbs vs. the animals which we're seeing here which, on average, weigh in excess of 70lbs.
While in most instances, you are correct, wolves dislike and dispatch coyotes, over 100 years ago it was a matter of survival for the wolf which was being eradicated by man. It needed to do something to survive, and so female coyotes mated with male wolves in areas north of the great lakes. The population has since grown and expanded its range eastward through Quebec and into the Maritimes.
I love this animal...phenomenal in every way.
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wow! keep that info coming.it,s great food for thought.
denis
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Denis: You may want to call the Toronto Wildlife Centre - let them know about the one who is definately injured. They will hopefully go and look for it and see if it is really injured or whatever. Ann
Toronto Wildlife Centre
60 Carl Hall Rd., Unit 4
Toronto, ON M3K 2C1
For concerns about sick, injured, or orphaned wildlife, or any other wildlife-related question or concern, please call:
TWC Wildlife Hotline: (416) 631- 0662
Our Hours of Operation:
Open from 9AM until 6PM, 7 days a week, year round*
*Please note that on December 24th, 25th, 26th, 31st, and January 1st, hours are 9am to 4pm.
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Excellent pics Denis, I have to agree with Attila, last winter I found 2 Coyotes in the Brickwoks I got even closer than you and I can tell you they were large German Sheppard size I was convinced they were Wolves but somebody told me that wolves are much bigger...appearently my 2 had chased a bunch of Deer up the Lower Don River and then crossed into the Brickworks...your pics are stunning you must be thrilled!
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thanks.
i wasn,t expecting to see coyotes in town. ann,i will try to call before they close.
denis
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Hi Denis,
I volunteer at Toronto Wildlife Centre and alerted Hotline to the coyote situation at Humber and sent this link to them so they could see the photos. They are very concerned and ask that you, or anyone else in this forum who may have seen this coyote first-hand, to please call them. They've put this as a high priority and have questions for you, for example exact location seen, was there any limping etc.
Another volunteer had also submitted some photos of him recently so he is on their radar...it would be a huge help if you could get in touch with them when you have a chance as any info you could provide would be of help.
Thanks!
Chris
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oh the poor guy, I hope you were able to reach the twc before they closed. Great pictures by the way, the last photo is stunning, it looks like you just took a brush to her before taking the photo :D
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Great shots, Denis and, BTW, the"injured" coyote has mange. Note how it's tail is not half missing but the fur has been lost from the end. Thanks for sharing.
Al
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thanks misty,and al.
i left my number,and they will call me tomorrow,if they need any more info.yes,the one coyote,looks very healthy,and has a beautiful coat.
denis
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al.
i researched the mange mite,and it makes absolute sense.i didn,t post the pics,but i have a few,with that coyote, vigorously scratching himself,in the hairless area.
denis
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Denis: You may want to call the Toronto Wildlife Centre - let them know about the one who is definately injured. They will hopefully go and look for it and see if it is really injured or whatever. Ann
Toronto Wildlife Centre
60 Carl Hall Rd., Unit 4
Toronto, ON M3K 2C1
For concerns about sick, injured, or orphaned wildlife, or any other wildlife-related question or concern, please call:
TWC Wildlife Hotline: (416) 631- 0662
Our Hours of Operation:
Open from 9AM until 6PM, 7 days a week, year round*
*Please note that on December 24th, 25th, 26th, 31st, and January 1st, hours are 9am to 4pm.
I totally agree with Ann Brokelman
Please call Toronto Wildlife Centre. They are extremely helpful - please call and describe the location to them
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it,s all been taken care of .they have the info,and the pics,and will call me for further info,if needed.
denis
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Could the first one be suffering from mange? I'm basing that on the appearance of the tail...
And I'm interested in knowing what characters identify the second one as a coydog...my first impression was that it was a wolf / coyote hybrid but that was really just because it definitely does not look like a pure coyote. And if it were in fact a coy/wolf hybrid, then that raises eyebrows about the distribution and numbers of these hybrids.
I live in West Grey and the local hunters have been telling me that there are coy/wolf hybrids throughout Grey-Bruce.
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i have spoken with the TWC today,and they are trying to find the animal.they dont think it has mange.and they are both coyotes,not coywolves,or coydogs.for some of you who think they are too big to be coyotes,well, i saw them first hand,and one 30 ft. away,and believe me,it was no more than 40 lbs.the TWC agree with me. as far as coloration on the second one,they tell me this is very common. they raised a litter of 7,or 9 pups this year,and they were all different colours.in the wild,the colour gene was important for camouflage,but the animals in,or near the city,have no need of this,so it doesn,t play an important part in the reproduction.this information came to me from the TCW,today,whom i think are very qualified,in making this assesment.thanks to all,who showed corcern in this matter,and we can only hope,they can trap,and help this poor animal out.
denis
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Great pics Denis. I especially like the one of him standing on the beach with the reflection in the sand. If he was a little further back down the beach you may have got a full reflection. Awesome. The one looks nice and healthy, must be some good eats down there.
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thanks
i have several more photos with some reflections in them,that i havent even processed.it was hard to decide on which ones to post.
denis