Outdoor Ontario

Off Topic => Anything Goes => Topic started by: Axeman on November 23, 2010, 01:47:14 PM

Title: One of my MANY pet peeves...
Post by: Axeman on November 23, 2010, 01:47:14 PM
One of my many pet peeves is the constant clamouring of a coyote problem in grey-bruce and southgate....recently a local newspaper featured an article complete with pictures about a local hunter who shot a coyote while it was atop a deer. The hunter then shot the deer b/c of it's injuries. He did not take the deer for meat. I had to smack my head and give it a real shake...I'm afraid now...it seems any idiot can own a gun.

When the farmers are not whining about the coyote population, they whine about the deer and turkey population. Here was a coyote doing one of the things we expect it to do and some moron shoots it...and then on top of that, the deer is shot too...and in my opinion, died in vain. And don't forget, when they lose livestock, they are reimbursed for it. Not to many other industries I know of that we do everything we can to guarantee them a profit -- oh the reimbursement covers miniature horses too.

I have lived in this area for 8 years and have yet to see a coyote, live or dead on the side of the road. On the other hand, in the same time span, I have seen a dozen coyotes, live and dead, in the GTA.

Unfortunately, Grey, Bruce and Southgate are permitted -- they are the only townships I believe that are permitted to -- offer bounties on coyotes. While I am not opposed to the hunting b/c I think it gives the coyotes a healthy fear of man, which they apparently don't have in the GTA, I am opposed to subsidizing a hobby for these idiots. They will go out there and run their dogs with GPS tracking devices while they sit in their pickups, engine running, drinking beer, whether they collected a bounty or not. If it weren't for the fact that the idea was to kill coyotes, I am tempted to join them...it sounds like fun.

If the coyotes, deer and turkey are too much, I don't know why these people don't just move to Bloor and Spadina. I suppose though, that would put the squirrels on the list of public enemies.

Sorry for the rant but it seems like the coyotes are brought up in EVERY issues of EVERY local paper and other than suspect anecdotal evidence, there is nothing to support this complaint of a burgeoning coyote complaint...and this latest incident drove me crazy...
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Post by: Reuven_M on November 23, 2010, 03:20:32 PM
There are bounties on coyotes in ontario! that is just digusting
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Post by: Lloyd on November 23, 2010, 05:57:13 PM
I'm up for squirrel bounties
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Post by: ravynne40 on November 23, 2010, 06:54:55 PM
Steel their beer and run.....THEN see what happens lmao! I don't its right to have a bounty on coyotes...the more deer you have the more  coyotes..its the natural food chain..sometimes  i wonder how man would feel if he were a hunted species
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Post by: Axeman on November 23, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
I happen to know the hunter -- he's not a vegetarian...and he runs a factory style chicken farm...so I really didn't buy the story that he felt he was doing the humane thing...and that he couldn't take the deer suffering.
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Post by: egret on November 26, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
this really makes
me angry

good grief!

Egret

tks for posting
:)
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Post by: surfinbird on November 27, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
I agree , the hunter is an idiot . People complain about the fact that there are too many deer around these days , but that is because there was a bounty on wolves which nearly wiped them out . People never learn .
Rob
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Post by: Moira on November 27, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: "Lloyd"
I'm up for squirrel bounties


I'm with you :)
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Post by: Axeman on November 28, 2010, 05:45:17 AM
I guess really what my peeve boils down to is this prevailing sense of entitlement to the world and the sense that there is no room to share....I mean really...what do the squirrels do?

I can't think of one case where hunting or some other form of manipulation has been successful in controlling a population problem. I know someone is going to tell me that the spring bear hunt was a great idea...
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Post by: Reuven_M on November 28, 2010, 08:22:29 AM
Quote from: "Axeman"
I guess really what my peeve boils down to is this prevailing sense of entitlement to the world and the sense that there is no room to share....I mean really...what do the squirrels do?

I can't think of one case where hunting or some other form of manipulation has been successful in controlling a population problem. I know someone is going to tell me that the spring bear hunt was a great idea...


Well, sometimes hunting/trapping the entire populations of invasive species on islands has worked, but that is obviously a different idea. And I agree, if there are too many squirrels/coyotes/deer/turkeys for your taste, too bad and live with it.
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Post by: Lloyd on November 29, 2010, 06:27:56 PM
It's okay. You can relax. I'm certain Moira will agree that although the squirrels can be a nuisance around feeders and gardens, we're not really hoping they'll be exterminated.
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Post by: Axeman on November 29, 2010, 08:52:33 PM
sorry...I'm just riled up by this a**hole shooting the coyote while it was in the middle of predating on the deer...and it cracks me up...if you complain about farm smells eg. when they spread manure on the fields, they retort with "either put up with it or move back to the city"...and I'm thinking if you can't put up with coyotes deer and wild turkeys....