Outdoor Ontario
Discussion => General Discussions => Topic started by: josullivan on December 07, 2010, 09:05:06 PM
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I'm not sure if too many people are interested in this but, as Ontbirds doesn't allow such discussions, I thought I'd try this excellent site.
The question is: what species do people think will be the next new bird for Ontario?
The current Ontario checklist can be found on the OFO website: www.ofo.ca (http://www.ofo.ca)
My own personal choice, given the current influx of Northern Lapwings in the North-east presumably fleeing the unusually bad weather in western Europe, and given that Ontario is due a "mega", is Northern Lapwing---a long-shot but who knows?
I would be interested in other birders' choices.
Regards
Brendan O'Sullivan
Mississauga
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Might as well go _really_ big... ivory bill WP :)
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Glaucous-winged gull
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I try to be realistic at the beginning of a new year. Have 260+ on my list so its harder to see new ones each year. As I dont drive,I could easily add a few new ones of the Algonquin regulars if I could get there. Never seen a Gray Jay,Red Crossbill or Black-backed Woodpecker. Not seen Phalaropes of any description or Partridge either. Some of those seem doable in the next year.
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I say Reddish Egret.
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Reddish Egrst
Great Choice---I never even thought of that one---it certainly enters my top 5 possibilities.
Brendan
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It was kind of hard finding birds that hadn't been seen in Ontario already. Most of the ones I thought of as reasonable were already on the checklist.
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I think we had this same discussion about a year ago to this time...I like the Ruby Throated Hummingbird...are peregrines eligible as a choice? ahh wait...no I got it....the perfect provincial bird.....Wild Turkey ! That's it ! Wild Turkey for provincial bird !
Anything but the starling ! lol
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I'd choose any woodpecker not currently in the OFO checklist.
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Just to clarify---I'm not trying to pick a provincial bird for Ontario--that's the Common Loon, I believe.
I'm just looking for suggestions what people think will be the next, new species, that is found in Ontario.
For example, Ivory-billed Woodpecker would qualify, as one has never been seen in Ontario before, but, of course, that's a long-shot!!
Brendan
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I don't hold out much hope for the Reddish Egret as it seems to stick quite closely to salt water but I wouldn't expect one to get to the north. I'll guess the next new new bird will be a shearwater or petrel found on Hudson or James Bay. More people seem to be going there in the fall, so with more eyes, more rarities. At least that's my hope.
Of course, my guess excludes any new species caused by splitting an existing species. :)
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ahh sorry Brendan...I completely misread your post...this sounds like fun....hmmmm
Are we placing wagers? I'll have to give this some more thought but I like the IBWP
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Actually, a couple of top birders have just returned from James Bay and found a Sooty Shearwater (or it may be a Short-tailed Shearwater)--- either of which would be new for Ontario, so, your prediction is spot-on.
Brendan
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Yes, I'm aware that Alan Wormington and Brandon Holden saw a Sooty Shearwater, and I expect that it, as well as the Atlantic Yellow-nosed Albatross, will be added to the list. I'm talking about the one after those.
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Recently, my friend saw a Fork-tailed Flycatcher in New York state. Also seen was a Barnacle Goose, which had been banded in the UK. These beauties should just fly a little farther to us.
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I'm going to go with Roseate Spoonbill as an accidental for Ontario's next 'New' species.
Walter
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Recently, my friend saw a Fork-tailed Flycatcher in New York state. Also seen was a Barnacle Goose, which had been banded in the UK. These beauties should just fly a little farther to us.
Both already on the list.
I'm going to go with Roseate Spoonbill as an accidental for Ontario's next 'New' species.
Walter
Already on the list
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Hi Reuven
I missed them? Darn! Okay, how about a Stellar's Jay? I've always wanted to see one of those.
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Pyrrhuloxia
napper:))
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Pyrrhuloxia
napper:))
There was one in 2004, but it must not have been accepted, as its not on the list.
http://www.mail-archive.com/ontbirds@hw ... 08109.html (http://www.mail-archive.com/ontbirds@hwcn.org/msg08109.html)
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Ah, too funny!!! Thanks Reuven, I didn't realize that the OFO list had been updated. Do I get points for being on the right track...just a little late? - LOL!!!
Walter
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Yes, you get 10 points, putting you in first as everyone else has 0 :D
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I'd be interested to know why that Pyrrhuloxia was not accepted and if last year's Phainopepla was, or maybe that one has not been voted upon yet?
I have a feeling that this thread is winding down so , for what it's worth, I am going to withdraw my original cnadidate of Northern Lapwing ( if that's allowed! and here are my top 5 picks for next new Ontario bird:
Pink-footed Goose---there are usually 2 or 3 sightings on the east coast, usually during winter, every year including this one. I chased 2 in July just across the border from Ottawa i Quebec about 6 years ago but couldn't find them among the gazillions of Canada Geese.
Red-necked Stint---these are also annual on the east coast usually during Fall migration.
Anna's Hummingbird---there is one coming to a feeder in Pennsylvania at present--they are hardy little souls.
Curve-billed Thrasher---there was one in Manitoba this year
Reddish Egret----if there have been Wood Storks and Little Blue Herons and Tricolored Herons, why not this one?
Brendan
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Just to add:
I did get my lifer Pink-footed Goose near Montauk at the very end of Long Island, New York about 3 years ago. I once chased Red-necked Stint at Milford, Connecticut but the bird had flown the coup. It would be nice if I could add that bird to my life list in Ontario---maybe in 2011.
Brendan
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I too am now going with the Curve-billed Thrasher - there seems to have been several sightings of this species within reasonable distance of Ontario.
If anyone uses the OFO's Checklist of the Birds of Ontario (http://www.ofo.ca/checklist/checklist.php) for their own personal records, it might be worth a look-see as they (The AOU and the OBRC) have made several changes to the list for this year...a couple of species added, one removed, and several shuffled around.
Walter
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Speaking of species being removed from various lists: I would never remove a bird from my own personal list, even it has been removed by the officiating body. If it's there it stays there. Basically, its your list and you can do what you want with it .
A good example of this is the Yellow-chevroned Parakeet which is found in Florida. It was removed from the ABA list 2 or 3 years ago having been accepted for quite some time. I'm not quite sure why they removed it as its cousin, the White-winged Parakeet, is still on the list. If I had seen this bird before the removal--I didn't-- I would keep it.
Speaking of Psittacidae---how about Monk Parakeet for Ontario---there are some in places like Chicago and some of the est coast cities which get just as cold as Toronto, for example? It sure would be nice to have Parrots flying around Bay and Bloor on a cold winter's day.
Brendan