Yellow Billed Cuckoo or Chipmunk sounds?
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Yellow Billed Cuckoo or Chipmunk sounds?

Rotarran

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I saw a lot of YB Cuckoo sightings through eBird at Happy Valley forest and indeed when I was there today for a few hours I did hear sounds that would have matched the Cuckoo but then at the back of my mind I was always thinking, 'what if it's a Chipmunk'.  The reason I say that is because I learned in another thread that they can make clucking sort of sounds apparently.  

I heard these sounds on several occasions throughout the forest.  Might have been as many as 4 or 5 Cuckoos if that's what they were.  Each time they were distant and I could not tell whether the sound was coming from the ground or the trees.  Whenever I tried to get closer the sound stopped and I never did get a visual.  Not sure if others are reporting those sounds as Cuckoos without visually confirming or if they indeed hear the Cuckoos.  Anyway, it's a all a bit of a mess...I wish I was a better birder lol  :lol:
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Chipmunks generally only make one sound repeated at fast intervals, in long strings (they used to say you could estimate the temperature by counting their calls per minute and doing some math.)

On AllAboutBirds, the yb cuckoo recording has quite a variety of vocalizations which do not all sound the same, and some sound quite different from a chippie.

I suspect you may have heard chippies if you heard 5 different places giving off the same monosyllable but repeated over and over. That sounds like chips calling territory.

Maybe you could record the calls (by taking video without a subject) for later replay at home to compare? And/or start looking for a chirking chipmunk. They are often at near ground level when they call territory, on a stump, fallen log, or rock. They tend to stay still on it calling steadily over and over. If you find one and video it, you may get it fixed in your mind sooner as its call?

I've never heard a cuckoo, but I grew up with chippies, so I don't really know how to describe their chirk. It's something you get used to, like a cardinal, after prolongued exposure. Since chips are pretty common even in the city, maybe you could find a park nearby to just listen for a few days to them?

There are some decent recordings of chipmunks, doing both their chip call and their chirk call at miracleofnature.org/blog/the-chipping-munk
if that's of any help.
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I was at Happy Valley yesterday too (early morning) and heard and saw a lot of chipmunks, but I heard one sound I believe was a Yellow-billed Cuckoo as the sound had a different tone (a bit softer than the chipmunks) and came from the tree tops.

I agree it's very difficult birding there as I'm a lot better at identyfing birds by sight than by sound and most birds are very hard to see.

I missed the Acadian Flycatcher and Hooded Warbler, but saw Pileated Woodpecker, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker and Wood Thrush and heard the Yellow-bellied Cuckoo above and a Barred Owl.
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Thouc...did you hear it near the entrance?  That's where I heard the most likely candidate for YB Cuckoo...seemed to come from the top of the trees but due to constant elevation changes it was difficult to know for certain.  I guess I might head back some time soon and try to get a recording.

The Acadian is on a separate trail system that moves from east to west and is at the end of the first trail that moves from north to south.  It's when the 2nd trail crosses the tiny stream that you often hear the Acadian.  Also if you go all the way to the end of that trail and exit the forest to see a gorgeous field, there are Bobolinks there...likely breeding.  Saw them there last year too.
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I heard the YB Cuckoo at the Acadian Flycatcher spot at the stream crossing. I saw the Acadian there two years ago, but not yesterday.
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Thank you.
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more importantly:
you see the hooded warbler?
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No, didn't see it, think it's very hard to spot it. Most records are by sound by people with better birding ear than me.
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Yeah things are a little tough for seeing and / or photography at Happy Valley.  But I still try.  You get the odd bird that comes below the canopy and gives good displays.  Case in point was one of the many Ovenbirds and also the Acadian Flycatcher.  But it being darker inside the forest than outside, you may have a challenge with lighting.  And no I did not see the Hooded Warbler.  I saw one in Mississauga a couple of months ago so it wasn't a huge priority for me anyway.
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I tend to think that if you thought it was a chipmunk, you were probably right.  Most recordings I've heard don't do the Yellow-billed Cuckoo justice.  It's unlike anything else I've ever heard in tone in and cadence.  Maybe if it was quite distant or it was a partial call, but to me, it's a very unique sound.  They also can make a cooing sound that is much less distinctive, but I don't think you're talking about that one.

I still remember running to get a look the first time I heard one.  I had no idea what it was.  I just knew it was nothing I'd ever heard before.

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