ID please

[jonah]

I need some ID help please. There were 2 birds in the feeder at sunirise, the male was dark gray backed, with red breast and throat , not as red as a cardinal though, with the finch beak. The female a softer paler red belly with gray back and head.
Any thoughts? :?:

[Kin Lau]

Rose-breasted Grosbeak might fit the bill Have you tried looking up female Cardinal?

What colour is the head?

[Bird Brain]

What size were the birds?  

My first thought was Red-breasted Nuthatches if they were small.  

[jonah]

Thanks for your help, I have confirmed they are Cardinals, male and female. Both returned this early am at sunrise to feed, their twits were recognizable and I had a much longer viewing.The male's back colouring is a greyish tone and this is what threw me off.
Best of birding,
Jonah. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Andreas Jonsson]

Kin,

this post should probably be moved to the "Bird ID" forum.