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ALERT - trapping

BoboBird

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Up at Ravenshoe today a lady birder observed a group of people (3 men and a woman) setting up cages etc apparently to trap the snowies. She also saw that they had steel wire with them so was pretty sure it could not be bird banders. She and her husband confronted the group and also took pics of the incident. I had left that area so did not witness it myself though some others who had passed by did and told me about it later.

We later observed a car stop right in the middle of the road oblivious/did'nt care that they had blocked both ways. The woman got out took a few pics of a snowy and then left.

Not having witnessed or heard such things before, I am at a loss as to what can be done, if anything.

Thought it best to let everyone know about it just in case.

I will keep an eye out on future visits.
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Paul O'Toole

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To report a natural resources violation, call 1-877-TIPS-MNR (847-7667) toll-free any time or contact your local ministry office during regular business hours.
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I have been in contact with the Licensed Bander and he has confirmed it was he who was leading the group mentioned in this thread. This man has been been Licensed to Band birds of many species and has been doing so for many years. The good news is that there was nothing illegal being done.
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But they had steel wire with them!
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Paul O'Toole

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:D Good to know.
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BoboBird

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Thanks Bronco for the info but could you contact the person and ask about the steel wire?
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Quote from: "BoboBird"
Thanks Bronco for the info but could you contact the person and ask about the steel wire?

BoboBird, have done so --- also got your PM and sent you a reply.
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Thanks. I have replied. :)
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I have mixed feeling on banding, unless its done by a government agency like mnr or the USWF, USGS in the states.

Banding techniques don't result in a high fatality rate for the birds, i think less than 1 % die after they hit the nets or have nets dropped on them.

I don't like the way that they lure other raptors though. In Victoria, BC for example, every Coopers Hawk is banded. To get them to fly down though, they tether a live great horned owl to the ground below the nest. There is a net over the owl so that it can't get injured. When the hawk swoops down a second net is thrown over it so they can capture it.

In Ontario for science, for great grey owls, they use mice that they injure and attach them to a line and let them try to escape down rows of trees which they feel have potential for having owls, when the owl flies down, they again throw the net over it.

Some places i will never report to again are private Organizations and Federations, because they don't have the courtesy to even acknowledge your email when you send them info and pics of one of their tagged birds.

Reporting to the governemt or scientists is important though. Once i sent a picture of a banded Egret near Orangeville. It just suddenly flew around some trees and landed in the lake. You could clearly read the tag on the pic as it flew by. The bander was pretty excited when i sent him an email with the pic. The bird had been banded near Windsor and hadn't been seen in a couple of years. Also he said that he didn't know that it was possible to get a clear pic of a band in flight and wanted to use it to show others in research.

Also in Victoria, i sent a picture with a banded coopers hawk that was perched low hunting quail. The government were excited to see the bird in the pics, because there had been no reports from anyone in the previous 4 1/2 years.

Thats why i only report to the government. They also keep records of all bird bands in North America.
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