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Baiting discussion response

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thouc

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This is a response to the baiting discussion, but it's not fair to use someone's photo post as the arena for this, so I post it here instead.

1. We have had this discussion on this forum before, and I believe many are tired of it, and the general consensus is to follow the OFO Code of ethics and the guidelines for owl photography posted by Paul.

2. Baiting raptors/owls at a single occasion in order to obtain good photographs is certainly different from feeding birds at a bird feeder during the whole winter season in order to help them survive. There are examples of feeding raptors (notably eagles) non-toxic carrion to help with survival and avoid toxins in their natural prey, but that's a whole different story.

3. The general notion that raptors are declining and songbirds/ducks are increasing is not true. There are declining and increasing species in both categories with complex reasons. There is no reason to believe baiting raptors would help the population in any way.

4. Songbird and duck feeding might also be questionable as it's aiding wintering birds which gains an advantage compared to migratory birds when competing for nests, food etc, and thus might alter species distributions and populations.
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I completely agree with Thouc (and Kingston Paul) on the post above on following proper bird ethics and birding values set out by the various birding organizations.

If getting that shot is so important than maybe you are better off going to a zoo or bird sanctuary.   I don't want to get into a debate about the purpose of this site, as there is several sections for photos, but the bulk of the members are birders and not just photographers, this site is to share experiences, sighting, and knowledge of birds and wildlife and is not set up to be a competition about who can get the best shot and how much praise they can get in feed back


On a side note concerning "Baiting", while I was in London, Ont a few weeks ago, there was an article in the local paper.... about some guy who was charged with illegally baiting waterfowl in Rondou Bay and has gone to trial,  anyhow the judge thru the case out because the crown did not provide expert witness to say  ``geese might be attracted to a  floating platform on the water with corn on it``.......imagine that geese attracted to corn, never would of thought that

it is actually a sad story because it goes to show how useless our laws are with regards to wildlife even with what seems an easy case.  We need to be on guard for those who would try to make up their own rules and guideline for what is appropriate behavior around birds and wildlife..... a few shots of some boob getting to close to an owl or baiting/ whacking trees/ whacking poles being posted online might help in being a deterrent...... if they don't like me posting their pics..they can sue me!

Happy Birding
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Read this article today at chapters in a canadian photo magazine.

http://www.outdoorphotographycanada.com/article/great-bait-debate-full-story-click-here
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