help with gull id please

[Molebird]

Saw a large flock of gulls at Sam Smith's yesterday.  Apart from ring-billed and herring gulls there was a

1. gull (missing an entire wing) - size similar to herring, pale blue eyes, pink feet, black tip on yellow beak, black tail.

2. flock of smaller (than ring-billed) - black tip on pinkish beak, dark eye, grey legs

Thank you.

[thouc]

My guess would be immature Herring Gull and immature Ring-billed Gull.

/Thomas

[Reuven_M]

Gull ID is difficult from photos, you aren't going to get anywhere with vague descriptions.