Purple Finch or House Finch?

[Birdman]

Any chance either of these birds could be a purple finch?  It is a different bird in each photo.

Photo 1 is quite a deep red and not much streaking under its wings; beak seems fairly conical but hard to tell.  
Photo 2 doesn't have much colour on its back but its tail appears deeply notched.  
Neither appears to have a head crest, though.  

Thanks for your input!

[Shortsighted]

Hard to say from that distance especially for someone shortsighted.
The lack of light superciliary arch and loss of colour on the belly and flanks
would suggest a House Finch, which is also a lot more common.

[Ally]

Hard to say from that distance especially for someone shortsighted.
The lack of light superciliary arch and loss of colour on the belly and flanks
would suggest a House Finch, which is also a lot more common.

Your photo is so romanticly beautiful!

[Birdman]

Thanks for your feedback.  Looks like I still need to find myself a purple finch!

[Shortsighted]

ey, ya might need to go undercover.

[Ally]

I think house finches and song sparrows both have a temper. They bully house sparrows at my feeder. This one comes to feed today, and I think he is a house finch.

[Shortsighted]

Yes, it is a House Finch and a very handsome one indeed.
Wonderful that you can get so close to it and it may even experience
some delight in the attention. In so much that attention results in
more feed. A mutually beneficial arrangement.